[OOC] I Want To Manufacture
November 14, 2009 in Uncategorized by Rayne Stryker
I really want to do some serious manufacturing in New Eden. I have piddled around a little with T1, and have done some inventing and T2 Frigate manufacturing, but I want to set up a regular, profit making, production chain.
The problem is, I have been doing some scanning of prices and margins out there and all I can find that has any margin at all, is Ammo and Missles, and that is very small. Don’t get me arong, I don’t necessarily feel like I have to built everything there is a BPO for, I just want to find some key pieces that I can make a steady decent profit on and do them. No, I am not sure what “decent profit” is, but I am trying to figure it out.
I like T2 production, and I would like to get into T3 production eventually. My Corp is totally carebear, not interested in low or null sec, and only marginally interested in W-space, but I am interested in all of this. I may end up having to go this completely solo, which I know is not preferred, and maybe not even possible.
I have read through the article in EON #14 about this. Can anyone offer any ideas or guidance regarding this. I know some of you posted T2 and T3 specific info before, I guess I am mostly looking for T1 guidance, or someone telling me to go on to just T2 production, as well as how to best make money in T2 production. I know margins on T2 frigates are there, but not necessarily great either.
Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated.
There is plenty of money to be made in t2. Until recently, it was hard to make money in t2 ships, as they tended to be sold under cost, however there was plenty of room for profit with modules.
More recently though, things have changed and t2 ships turn more of a profit than they used to, especially when the job is run with the right decryptor.
All of that being said, now is not the time to be getting in to t2. The material requirements for t2 stuff is going to change come Dominion, in light of the rebalancing of moon profit. Skill and isk investments made now could bite you on the arse when Dominion goes live.
In your case, I’d sit tight for a few weeks and see how things go after Dominion, then find the area you want to get involved with
Hello,
There IS money to be made on the T1 market. Quite a bit, actually. You need to be able to obtain the raw materials cheaply, get Production Efficiency up to 5, and have researched BPOs. Buying BPCs from the market for production will kill your profits for the most part.
How to get cheap raw materials? Well, that part is easier than you may think. Fly around to the less populated areas of Eve and use buy orders for minerals. You can get a good supply of minerals 10-20% under normal market value, and the best part is… YOU DON’T HAVE TO WASTE TIME MINING. Let other people do it for you. Or, you can still mine, but you have a secondary mineral supply under normal cost.
That is where I buff my production margins. Sure, I can make some money by buying those minerals from the market, but I can make MORE money this way.
You will still have issues getting things like Zydrine and Megacyte; for these, try buy orders near mission areas. People like to reprocess loot, which often contains amounts of these minerals, and the mission runners simply don’t care if they’re dropping the minerals at under-average buy orders if it means they don’t have to spend time hauling it all.
Also, pick a few systems and put up system-wide buy orders, not multiple-jump orders. This will make it easier to pick up the minerals (it will be in just a few places, instead of ALL OVER) and you won’t scare those people with the 5-10 jump buy orders into over-bidding you.
Hope that helps.
I concur with the previous poster, that there *is* money to be made in the t1 market consistently, but you must also pay attention to your market hub or hubs that you are servicing?
A technique for ‘new market scouting’ and T1 bits… Do a map search for “Ships Killed in the last 24 hours”. Then set up your trade hub(s) near, if not in that system.
Do this every other day for a week or two and you’ll know what the ‘hot’ spots are where there’s a constant demand for many items.
I’ve let my manufacturing efforts lapse lately, due to RL and other Eve related fiascoes[some details to be had at Chebri.blogspot.com.]
Industry is a Marathon, just lay in the time when you can, make sure you know your hauling metrics, and take all of the advice in the previous comment to heart as well, and you’ll do fine.